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to uphold or strike down doma, two seriously change a landmark civil rights law, the voting act. are they going to take the steps or are they going to do it incrementally? >> in the same-sex marriage area, it's very difficult to predict. justice kennedy will have to things pointing in different directions. one is that this is animus about groups and the other is that the definition of marriage is a traditional thing. cases like this had no chance of prevailing in the supreme court and there has just been a change in conventional wisdom that i don't know corresponds with a vote in the supreme court. in terms of the voting rights act and affirmative action, these are areas where justice kennedy believes strongly. when he believes strongly in something, that tends to drive the court to move further, faster. i would be surprised if section 5 of the voting at survives unscathed. the court sent a warning shot to congress and said you better change this thing. when it comes to affirmative action, would be quite surprised if the rule look anything like what it looks like now. >> others o
to uphold or strike down doma, two seriously change a landmark civil rights law, the voting act. are they going to take the steps or are they going to do it incrementally? >> in the same-sex marriage area, it's very difficult to predict. justice kennedy will have to things pointing in different directions. one is that this is animus about groups and the other is that the definition of marriage is a traditional thing. cases like this had no chance of prevailing in the supreme court and...
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our most important civil-rights is voting. it is what everything else relies on. this is not a casual thing. even if it does not turn an election. in a state that is solidly blue or solidly red -- whether or not it changes the outcome. as with the nfl refs, it did get settled very quickly after everybody on national television saw a game go the wrong way, and, tragically, it may take something like that for voter i.d. and voter suppression to get the attention it deserves. >> michael onesteel joined in. -- michael wants to join in. >> i have no idea what the right percentage should be, but it is under 1%. another topic that is way down that we believe should be more of the coverage is money in politics, the fund raising. it is just a sliver of the percentage. one of the things we are trying to do with our project is to bring awareness to these types of issues from a data perspective, so it is not just anecdotal. i think we all know about it, but is it being given enough percentage of coverage is i think a legitimate question. >> or what i think i notice, maybe eve
our most important civil-rights is voting. it is what everything else relies on. this is not a casual thing. even if it does not turn an election. in a state that is solidly blue or solidly red -- whether or not it changes the outcome. as with the nfl refs, it did get settled very quickly after everybody on national television saw a game go the wrong way, and, tragically, it may take something like that for voter i.d. and voter suppression to get the attention it deserves. >> michael...
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would you consider repealing the affirmative action bill and the civil rights bill? from what i am seeing right now, it seems like there's a backlash against the white community like obama has a war against white heritage or something. i mean, i don't understand it. host: gary johnson? guest: we should not discriminate. i think government policies in the past have gotten us to a point where i really do not see that discrimination. i am going to sign onto legislation repealing affirmative action. i think we have moved beyond that. but i will just offer up a production again. -- a prediction again. obama, romney, who will find ourselves with a heightened police state. we will find ourselves with interventions. if we bomb iran, will find ourselves with 100 military enemies -- 100 million enemies that we did not otherwise have. -- the day sooner than later. are arguing over who should spend more money on medicare and when we should have the debate on an cutting into significantly into the program if we will have health care at all for those over 65. the notion of a healt
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it's like the campaigns in the early 1900's when women's right to vote was the central civil rights issue in the country. it's like the campaigns in the 1840s in a teen 50's and the election of abraham lincoln. with an issue of or freedom was the central issue in the country. similarly those local elections before the revolution will -- were similar in the way they cast the issue as being one in which there is a status of british citizenship and american citizenship and there is a gap between the two and a gap must be close. the reason i had during this up if i were a candidate i would not be successfully elected because my platform would be to close a civil gap. all of us in this room being somewhat government professionals, we know that budgets are not really about money. they are about civil commitment. budgets are architectures of all the civil commitments that we have made to each other as citizens over many generations and the way in which these commitments and everything from national security to air traffic control, to food safety, all of these commitments accumulated year after y
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under the 1964 civil rights act. you cannot operate a private business that serves the public that also excludes people based on their race. you can't operate your business, for example, like this. even if it is your private business. and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory businesses. nobody thinks you can do this anymore, right? lives were lost and a lot of blood was shed to enforce that principle, but it is settled now, right? until the last couple of years. when kentucky republican rand paul won a seat in the united states senate in 2010. it was after a campaign in which he said the 1964 civil rights act made him uncomfortable. he wasn't sure that anybody should be able to tell a private business that, for example, you have to serve black people. >> would you have voted for the civil rights act of 1
under the 1964 civil rights act. you cannot operate a private business that serves the public that also excludes people based on their race. you can't operate your business, for example, like this. even if it is your private business. and even if your local law enforcement authorities are okay with it. and even request your state's government says stuff like segregation now. you're part of the united states of america and far of our constitution you cannot operate racially discriminatory...
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we passed two very forward-looking civil rights bills. it's not going to be all done by legislation. but i do think that you need to make an appeal every time you can to eliminate racial divisions and discrimination, and i'll keep on doing that and pointing to some legislative accomplishment to back it up. i have to take ten seconds here at the end -- the red light isn't on yet -- to say to ross perot, please don't say to the d.e.a. agents on the street that we don't have the will to fight drugs. please. i have watched these people -- the same for our local law enforcement people. we're backing up at every way we possibly can. but maybe you meant that some in the country don't have the will to fight it, but those that are out there on the front line, as you know -- you've been a strong backer of law enforcement -- really -- i just want to clear that up --have the will to fight it, and, frankly, some of them are giving their lives. >> time, mr. president. all right. let's go now to another subject, the subject of health. the first question
we passed two very forward-looking civil rights bills. it's not going to be all done by legislation. but i do think that you need to make an appeal every time you can to eliminate racial divisions and discrimination, and i'll keep on doing that and pointing to some legislative accomplishment to back it up. i have to take ten seconds here at the end -- the red light isn't on yet -- to say to ross perot, please don't say to the d.e.a. agents on the street that we don't have the will to fight...
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i think that marriage equality is a constitutionally guaranteed right on par with civil rights of the '60s. >> host: john is from illinois now. john is an independent. hi there. >> caller: hi. mr. johnson, the only problem i have is about the tax issue. and the reason why it's like -- the reason why i say that is, our taxes in this country have never been set at actually to be fair. what they were set up for originally was that the rich were supposed to pay the majority of their taxes in federal taxes, and the working class and the poor were supposed to pay most of -- the majority of theirs in home owners taxes, city and state taxes. and that has been all -- it's got everything out of sorts. my problem with what everybody calls a fair tax is, when you're on a fixed income, and these states are going to have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government is going to have such a lower one, that when anybody that is on a fixed tax rate goes in and buys a refrigerator, they cost $400, the lowest one they can buy, they have about $100 tax on the refrigerator. that is the probl
i think that marriage equality is a constitutionally guaranteed right on par with civil rights of the '60s. >> host: john is from illinois now. john is an independent. hi there. >> caller: hi. mr. johnson, the only problem i have is about the tax issue. and the reason why it's like -- the reason why i say that is, our taxes in this country have never been set at actually to be fair. what they were set up for originally was that the rich were supposed to pay the majority of their...
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would reiterate i do support marriage equality, i think it is constitutionally guaranteed with the civil-rights of the '60s. >> host: john is the independent. >> caller: mr. johnson mr. johnson, the only problem i have is about the tax issue. our taxes have never been set up to be fair. originally for the rich to pay them majority of taxes in federal taxes and a working class or poor would pay the majority of there's of homeowners gomez city, and state taxes. my problem with a fair tax is we're on a fixed income. the states will have to have such a high tax rate because the federal government has such a low were one. if someone buys a refrigerator at $700 there will be the $100 tax. that is the problem. the only when it will hurt are the people that are retired, disability, and the things like that. otherwise i am in completely in line with you. i voted for ron paul. i voted for paul brown. i cannot remember what year he ran. i voted for ross perot once. i am very open-minded better watch things closely. >> host: thank you for calling. gary johnson and the reaction? >> guest: by going to a nati
would reiterate i do support marriage equality, i think it is constitutionally guaranteed with the civil-rights of the '60s. >> host: john is the independent. >> caller: mr. johnson mr. johnson, the only problem i have is about the tax issue. our taxes have never been set up to be fair. originally for the rich to pay them majority of taxes in federal taxes and a working class or poor would pay the majority of there's of homeowners gomez city, and state taxes. my problem with a fair...
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on the issue of civil rights? >> i will absolutely differ from my party. i am pro-choice candidate, i believe in equal rights for all. i would have voted to repeal don't ask, don't tell. i don't think we should have discrimination in the military, the workplace or anywhere. >> our next question is to mr. murphy. >> knowing that voters form their opinions based on political ads, how can you justify airing ads that in some cases have been determined by fact checkers to be misleading, confusing, and downright inaccurate? >> the ads that you see on tv for me right now are me in my kitchen talking to voters directly about the differences between me and linda mcmahon on critical issues. i support a middle-class tax cut. when the mcmahon includes a tax cut for the very wealthy. when history is standing up for the people in the state, whether it's taking homeless veterans of the street and giving them housing or fighting for the most vulnerable and the roof over their head because of a disability or mental illness. linda mcmahon has used her job a very different w
on the issue of civil rights? >> i will absolutely differ from my party. i am pro-choice candidate, i believe in equal rights for all. i would have voted to repeal don't ask, don't tell. i don't think we should have discrimination in the military, the workplace or anywhere. >> our next question is to mr. murphy. >> knowing that voters form their opinions based on political ads, how can you justify airing ads that in some cases have been determined by fact checkers to be...
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would you consider repealing the affirmative action bill and the civil rights bill? from what i am seeing right now, it seems like there's a backlash against the white community like obama has a war against white heritage or something. i don't understand it. host: we should not discriminate. i think government policies in the past have gotten us to a point where i really do not see that discrimination. i am going to sign onto legislation repealing affirmative action. i think we have moved beyond that. but i will just offer up a production again. obama, romney, who will find ourselves with a heightened police state. we will find ourselves with continued military interventions. if we bomb iran, will find ourselves with 100 military enemies -- 100 million enemies that we did not otherwise have. and this unsustainable debt, the data center rather than later. -- the day sooner than later. and we all recognize it, but we are arguing over who should spend more money on medicare and when we should have the debate on an cutting into significantly into the program if we will h
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rights south and integration of james meredith at the university of ol miss. i like to pick out subjects that i feel have a lot of resonance to the culture history biography. >> and paul's most recent book national book critic circle award finalist. thank you for joining us o up next on booktv mallory factor talks about the power of government employee unions and the impact it's had on policy making. this is just under an hour.
rights south and integration of james meredith at the university of ol miss. i like to pick out subjects that i feel have a lot of resonance to the culture history biography. >> and paul's most recent book national book critic circle award finalist. thank you for joining us o up next on booktv mallory factor talks about the power of government employee unions and the impact it's had on policy making. this is just under an hour.
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i analyzed the situation to determine where it needed to be done and did the right thing. i think that that can happen. i think that by working together, that by being civil, you know, you have not seen any attack ads run by me. there have been attack ads run in this campaign, but not endorsed by me. i think that by partisanship is called for and can be accomplished, and i will work to do that. [applause] >> mr. plummer? >> absolutely. what i said i and my opening statements was true. the voters are hurting. they do not care if they are -- if you are republican or democrat. our farmers are struggling through one of the worst seasons they have ever seen. i announced this week that i would call for a discharge petition against leadership because they need a farm bill. there are some very serious policy issues out there now. is this right for southern illinois? there are a lot of issues that are not. obama care is bad. cap and trade is bad. the dream act is bad. i will not stand up for those issues, pushed by republican or democrat. the fact that the farm bill is not happenin
i analyzed the situation to determine where it needed to be done and did the right thing. i think that that can happen. i think that by working together, that by being civil, you know, you have not seen any attack ads run by me. there have been attack ads run in this campaign, but not endorsed by me. i think that by partisanship is called for and can be accomplished, and i will work to do that. [applause] >> mr. plummer? >> absolutely. what i said i and my opening statements was...
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harry truman once -- wanted a civil-rights plank. he desegregated the military and he wanted a civil-rights platform in 1948, a democratic platform. so strom thurmond carried five states and 40 of the electoral votes but he soon faded. that is ancient history, the dixiecrats. host: tampa, florida. are you with us? we'll try one more time. silver lake, indiana, republican line. caller: good morning, cspan. i would like a few questions answered from the gentleman on c-span out. host: let's hear them. caller: you hear all this political from parties that are running for office. i think we should have a rule that when they are running for office that they will hold themselves true to what they believe that they are running for and if it is found out that they are lying, that they can be recalled and put out of office. this would blank any of the fall's campaign that could be kept to their ability. host: thanks for the call. what about that idea? guest: in california, it forced governor schwarzenegger into office because the republicans w
harry truman once -- wanted a civil-rights plank. he desegregated the military and he wanted a civil-rights platform in 1948, a democratic platform. so strom thurmond carried five states and 40 of the electoral votes but he soon faded. that is ancient history, the dixiecrats. host: tampa, florida. are you with us? we'll try one more time. silver lake, indiana, republican line. caller: good morning, cspan. i would like a few questions answered from the gentleman on c-span out. host: let's hear...
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they were put in place as a wave right after the civil war. in states like virginia you talked about earlier it said quite plainly the person that made the argument for this law in 1901 made it very plain. he said because of this law, the darky will be zeroed out as a factor in our state's politics in five years and he said how he would support white supremacy as a norm across the state. these laws were never about ex-felon bans but affecting the black vote. here's in florida the first governor to expand the use pushed it in 1865. it was for him about pushing off negro suffrage. that's what we're dealing with here, is a vestage of jim crow we have to get rid of. >> thank you so much for your time. greatly appreciate it, ben. >> thank you. >>> football legend john elway introduces governor romney to a crowd of supporters last night. now the owner of the jets said he would rather see romney win the election than have a winning football season. i'll talk with the author of a new book" game over: how politics have turned the sports world upside-do
they were put in place as a wave right after the civil war. in states like virginia you talked about earlier it said quite plainly the person that made the argument for this law in 1901 made it very plain. he said because of this law, the darky will be zeroed out as a factor in our state's politics in five years and he said how he would support white supremacy as a norm across the state. these laws were never about ex-felon bans but affecting the black vote. here's in florida the first governor...
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it brought together civil rights leaders then and now. i was too young in '65, so were you, but we're not too young now. we must maintain what they won in '65. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an obama leading that's hardening is a deep concern that mitt romney said about that 47% of the country he says can't be counted on to meet its responsibility. it's that part of the country that romney has dismissed as free-loaders, moochers, takers. people, especially veteran families, people retired on social security, regular americans, that is, don't like being dismissed that way, injury added by insult. i'm joined by chuck todd and howard fineman with "the huffington post." the latest poll shows among likely voters the president leads 49% to 46% for romney. that's down net two points
it brought together civil rights leaders then and now. i was too young in '65, so were you, but we're not too young now. we must maintain what they won in '65. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. >>> does romney like you? let's play "hardball." ♪ >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. on the way to denver. let me start with this brand new nbc/wall street journal poll out tonight. what it shows in addition to an...
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wade to issues relating to civil rights and civil liberties. and so that -- that -- that was one of the intellectual changes that took place in my career as i got a close look at it. and that's why i was the first chairman of the judiciary committee to forthrightly state that it matters what your judicial philosophy is. the american people have a right to understand it and to know it. but i did change on that, and -- and i'm glad i did. >> governor? >> there have been times where, as mayor and governor, we have passed budgets that i did not veto and that i think could be considered as something that i quasi-caved in, if you will, but knowing that it was the right thing to do in order to progress the agenda for that year and to work with the legislative body, that body that actually holds the purse strings. so there were times when i wanted to zero-base budget, and to cut taxes even more, and i didn't have enough support in order to accomplish that. but on the major principle things, no, there hasn't been something that i've had to compromise on
wade to issues relating to civil rights and civil liberties. and so that -- that -- that was one of the intellectual changes that took place in my career as i got a close look at it. and that's why i was the first chairman of the judiciary committee to forthrightly state that it matters what your judicial philosophy is. the american people have a right to understand it and to know it. but i did change on that, and -- and i'm glad i did. >> governor? >> there have been times where,...
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. >> but i think that the issue is, before my time, e eliberal republicans that stood up for civil rights in the '60s, where are those voices in the republican party it today saying i don't agree with a lot of the things, economic policies but democracy should be nonnegotiable. >> where you know what, this gets to a larger issue. where is the leadership, where is the courage within the republican party. i mean we were talking about this at the time of the birther nonsense, where were the grownups and the republican parties saying to its own members look, you are not only questioning the legitimacy of president obama, but you're questioning the legitimacy of the president of the united states. based on nothing. based on a lie and based on a racist lie and not one person would step forward, any kind of stature within the republican party and say enough. to your point, there's no outrage over this because, you know, quite frankly i think the republican leadership is being held hostage by sort of the last gapses of the far right wing. >> the fear based decision making. >> and shouldn't mitt r
. >> but i think that the issue is, before my time, e eliberal republicans that stood up for civil rights in the '60s, where are those voices in the republican party it today saying i don't agree with a lot of the things, economic policies but democracy should be nonnegotiable. >> where you know what, this gets to a larger issue. where is the leadership, where is the courage within the republican party. i mean we were talking about this at the time of the birther nonsense, where...
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the civil war. >> but, okay, let me go to jim burn, chairman of the democratic party in pennsylvania. what's this mean for the people on the ground for people voting? i was worried about this law. now i'm worried people still think the law is in effect. and they won't go vote. it's called intimidation, not just suppression. >> it was a huge victory today, chris, like your other guests, and i think them for their partnership and i thank everybody for helping us to push this thing back past november 6th. our game now has transformed somewhat. because there's a portion of this that the judge allowed. that is that the government here in pennsylvania can still talk about the law even though it's not to be implemented. so our game, chris, has shifted. we're going to remind voters you do not need identification to vote because i suspect in the next five weeks, mr. corbett, mr. romney, mr. turzai, mr. metcalfe and their friends will attempt to create confusion and chaos now that we beat this thing back. so we're going to be just as vigorous now as we have been. your prior guest on the prior
the civil war. >> but, okay, let me go to jim burn, chairman of the democratic party in pennsylvania. what's this mean for the people on the ground for people voting? i was worried about this law. now i'm worried people still think the law is in effect. and they won't go vote. it's called intimidation, not just suppression. >> it was a huge victory today, chris, like your other guests, and i think them for their partnership and i thank everybody for helping us to push this thing...
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the civil rights act of 1964? if you're a libertarian might sound reasonable. if you apply for a job and the employer and employee agree on a salary, who's the government to get in there? some people in this country have decided discrimination is bad. that was todd akin coming out in favor of discrimination in the workplace not just against women. against anybody. so what's to stop a business from not hiring people of a race or religion or sexual orientation they don't like? under todd akin, nothing right? yeah, what a guy. so i'm going to have you play that about four times during this episode. i think it's more shocking than legitimate rape. 1-866-55-press. i'm john fuglesang filling in for bill all morning on your current radio and tv, this is the "bill press show." we'll be right back. >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." live on your radio and current tv. >> announcer: heard around the >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." >> john: this is the "bill press show." this is inds. this -- this is inxs. this song is 25 years old. we're taking your
the civil rights act of 1964? if you're a libertarian might sound reasonable. if you apply for a job and the employer and employee agree on a salary, who's the government to get in there? some people in this country have decided discrimination is bad. that was todd akin coming out in favor of discrimination in the workplace not just against women. against anybody. so what's to stop a business from not hiring people of a race or religion or sexual orientation they don't like? under todd akin,...
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civil rights groups pushing back against voter i.d. laws enacted by republican controlled legislatures since 2010. >> the effort to change the rules of the game at the last minute is a really misguided effort. >> reporter: wendy wiser is with the brandon center for justice and warns hundreds of thousands of voters may not have necessary i.d. they include the elderly, college students, poor people, blacks and latinos, groups that traditionally vote democratic. >> we need to do everything we can to ensure that there is no fraud in our elections, but what we shouldn't be doing is passing unnecessary laws that needlessly exclude thousands or hundreds of thousands of eligible americans from participating equally in our democracy. >> reporter: the new voter i.d. laws protect only against voter impersonation. in pennsylvania, a traditional swing state, lawyers for both sides admit no known cases of in person fraud. still, it is a problem says conservative columnist john fund, an expert on the subject. >> if someone walks in and votes in the n
civil rights groups pushing back against voter i.d. laws enacted by republican controlled legislatures since 2010. >> the effort to change the rules of the game at the last minute is a really misguided effort. >> reporter: wendy wiser is with the brandon center for justice and warns hundreds of thousands of voters may not have necessary i.d. they include the elderly, college students, poor people, blacks and latinos, groups that traditionally vote democratic. >> we need to do...
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and there is a difference -- >> you're right about that. what about bradford? >> bradford is the best thing the petitioners have and the founding iraq. he could have been speaking about the high seas. >> if you read it, it looks as if what he was up said about or what britain was upset about was an american. >> it was americans, but if properly read, the hostilities of which he spoke was the high seas part of the conduct. it was an american who piloted the french fleet 60 miles from the a list -- illes de los to the sierra leone river. >> before your time runs out, there would be no basis under the alien tort statute. but assume for a moment that those two cases -- that we accept them -- to accept them. is there anything different about your case? >> yes, your honor. there are many differences between us and filartiga. this is a case in which there is a class action against a corporation. if he did not agree with us and the lack of extraterritorial application, we still maintain that the ats does not apply to corporations. second, there is an allegation here of
and there is a difference -- >> you're right about that. what about bradford? >> bradford is the best thing the petitioners have and the founding iraq. he could have been speaking about the high seas. >> if you read it, it looks as if what he was up said about or what britain was upset about was an american. >> it was americans, but if properly read, the hostilities of which he spoke was the high seas part of the conduct. it was an american who piloted the french fleet...